Akmal Shaikh

As we are relatively unexposed to the dog-with-a-bone type media coverage of the UK, we might be forgiven for not having a clue who 53 year old Akmal Shaikh, who was executed this morning, was. Mr Shaikh is the first EU national to be executed in China in more than 50 years.

If you want gory details of the execution, at least according to a journalist’s imagination, the Daily Mail are doing a good line in the Robert Ludlum style of news writing.

According to a different article we learn that Akmal spent quite some time in Poland, was married to a Pole and is survived by two Polish children. The question was therefore raised as to why Poland did not join in the call for clemency? Aside from the issue of his children, which some might think enough of an excuse, there’s the general opportunity for a gang-bang on China’s human rights policies, never something to be turned down lightly.

China carries out almost three times as many executions as the rest of the world put together, according to the most conservative estimate by Amnesty International.

Nevertheless, Poland remained silent throughout, presumably on the basis that he wasn’t Polish, he annoyed the police in Lublin and didn’t pay his taxes:

Akmal was living with his Polish wife and two children in Poland until the marriage broke up. The British man stayed in Poland but got in trouble with the police in Lublin, charged with drunken driving and other crimes. He became homeless and fell into financial trouble.

Okay, but to come right out and deny that anyone had heard about the case? Is it possible not to have heard about this case? Was nobody in the government aware of the Polish links to this man?

“I have not heard about his case and the Office of the President has not taken any action,” Paweł Wypych said on behalf of President Lech Kaczynski. Poland’s Foreign Ministry also said that it did not know the details of the case.

I then looked a little harder at the pictures that have been splashed all over the news of this man and you know, I swear they are all set in Poland! The most used snap is the one below. Not immediately identifiable but I’m guessing from the Egyptian symbol behind him that he’s enjoying a delicious meal in a branch of the famous “Skunks” restaurants in Poland. Sorry, that should be “Sphinx”.

Akmalshaikh

What’s more, if you look at this article in the Telegraph, the guy’s standing next to a number 405 Polish bus and the image text says “Akmal Shaikh in Poland in 2007” – bit of a give away really. Is that the PKiN in the background? Still, let’s just ignore him and hope it all goes away.

So, he’s come from North London to Poland and lived here for quite a long time as far as we can tell. He married a Polish girl and had two children but sometime after, his life took a turn for the worse, quite a lot worse by the sounds of it:

Due to his illness he became convinced that he would become a pop star in China and eventually turned up in the country in 2008 with 4 kg of heroin in his possession.

What kind of illness makes you think you’ll be a pop star in China? Why do you need to 4kg of heroin to be a pop star in China? How did he manage to buy that much Heroin anyway? Well, according to the BBC

His daughter has said drug smugglers in Poland convinced him they would make him a popstar in China.

Aha, so here we have yet another link to Poland. Due to his (alleged) deteriorating mental health and difficult circumstances he was picked on by Polish drug smugglers and, tempted by the thought of being a Chinese pop star, he was tricked by them into smuggling 4kg of heroin into China.

So if I’m right, the wife is Polish, the kids are Polish, the drugs are Polish, the smugglers are Polish and his home for the last good while was Poland. But we’ve never heard of the case and we’d rather just keep quiet about it?

Then again, we could just take the stance, that many no doubt will, that he was a no-good drug smuggling Brit who treated his Polish wife and kids terribly and deserves to have been killed by the warm and cuddly state of China with whom we have such a good trading relationship.

Am I allowed to mention the fact that he’s brown and not Catholic? Or is that really too mischievous even for me? :-)

If only he had been a famous movie director, or something…..

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59 thoughts on “Akmal Shaikh

  1. Jubal says:

    You’ve almost gone native, it seems. The quality of your rants and level of emotional blackmail are improving steadily to almost Polish levels.

  2. Scatts says:

    Good to know, Jubal! I do try so very hard you know.

  3. Michał says:

    I agree it’s a shame for Poland. As the power of China raises, less and less is spoken by Western leaders about human rights in this country.

  4. guest says:

    the less human rights in China the better for us and for europe. They should kill 1000.0000 Chinese criminals and “criminals” every day in China.

  5. former dweller says:

    the answer is simple. the guy is a brown skinned guy with a muslim name. Those factors will never let him be a Pole.

  6. pinolona says:

    great article. shame on Poland for not joining with Gordon Brown’s appeal. It seems most western democracies have very selective human rights awareness largely dependent on trade relations (yes Poland is a western democracy).

  7. Bartek says:

    Scatts, I’m afraid Jubal has a point here. I can’t find my way around what you’re getting at in this post.

    This guy used to live in Poland for a few years, got married, but then divorced to a Polish woman, knocked her up two times, tried to do some business (to no avail), as far as I know he had never got Polish citizenship. If he wasn’t a Polish citizen, why should have our diplomatic services pleaded his case?

    And the story of Polish drug traffickers who set him up into smuggling, it doesn’t hang together.

    Polish wife and children also didn’t take his side – bears a testimony on how good husband and father he was.

  8. Scatts says:

    Bart, I think there are many angles to this and hopefully they will come out in the comments, as a few already have.

    The angles being (but not limited to)

    > Chinese human rights
    > The death penalty
    > Fellowship within the EU
    > Polish drug trade
    > Citizenship versus other ties (and associated rights or expectations)

    I may be misrepresenting but your angle seems to be “He was not Polish and a scumbag, even his Polish family thought that and so he deserved to be executed according to Chinese law, which I have no problem with.” ?

    Why doesn’t the story of Polish drug traffickers who set him up into smuggling, hang together? I must say I have no real evidence either way beyond what has been reported but it at least makes more sense than wanting to be a Chinese pop-star.

  9. Bartek says:

    with so many facets and such pace of piling up comments we’re likely to go back to the glorified times when we had 100 opinions under one post.

    Chinese human rights – we’ve spotted the problem long ago, it strays from the subject matter of Polandian, but OK – there are tens of such execution in China each year, but only when the capital punishment affect a citizen of a different country, we hear the outcry?

    Fellowship in the EU. Has anybody from outside the UK supported Gordon Brown’s plea? Has Mr Brown acted as British Prime Minister or as an EU leader? I bet the former.

    Polish drug trade? I’m not privy with the topic. Everybody would it’s the easiest thing on earth to find a drug dealer and buy drugs. Only I don’t know how to find them – how clunky of me!

    I wouldn’t call it a misrepresentation, it’s the most extreme interpretation of my words. There’s no link between his stance as husband, father or businessman and the death penalty in China. There are thousands of rogues who mistreat their families and it doesn’t justify a death sentence.

    Why doesn’t it hang together? It sounds to me like an excuse thought up in the heat of the moment just to temporise and postpone the execution. (here I don’t claim the execution was right, but give an example of a strategy – a drowning man will catch a straw)

    I was his video to the song about rabbit – it could indeed substantiate his bad mental health, which I don’t find funny at all.

  10. guest says:

    Gordon Brown ? ha ha

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6070357/Lockerbie-bombers-release-linked-to-trade-deal-claims-Gaddafis-son.html

    “Lockerbie bomber’s release linked to trade deal, claims Gaddafi’s son Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Saif, claimed the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi, was linked to trade deals between Britain and Libya.”

    nuff said.

    And plz do not teach Poland about human rights and China.

    http://www.euranet.eu/eng/Archive/News/English/2009/July/Dalai-Lama-honorary-citizen-of-Warsaw

    http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/12/11/1656/

  11. guest says:

    You are an anti polish racist.

    The Anglo saxons killed probably millions of “coloured skinned” people, and now the western post colonial countries want to teach Poland how to treat foreign people. What a hypocritical BS.

    Read something about, Kosciuszko, Domejko, Kapuscinski, John Paul II, Carlos Roloff-Mialofsky and shut up.

  12. Scatts says:

    100 opinions in a post is entirely possible with this one, Bart! ;)

    Chinese human rights – agreed, but at least this was a good excuse to have a pop without it appearing to only be justified by their record on human rights.

    EU – nobody else, except Poland, had any reason to say anything. God help us all if Brown ever started being taken seriously as an EU spokesman.

    The other stuff – I agree the metal illness sounds like an excuse but we were questioning the validity of him being sent over there by a Polish drug smuggler – weren’t we?

    Haven’t seen the rabbit video.

  13. Bartek: can you substantiate your claim that his wife and children were not protesting his death sentence or were actively pushing for it? That is a substantial claim and requires substantial proof.

    Anyway, the facts that he is brown and had a “Muslim-sounding” name likely did not help his cause with Polish authorities, not to mention his estranged wife/kids, run-ins with the law here and that he wasn’t a Polish national… and that he was caught with 4 kilo of heroin. However, it also seems that he was more or less off the deep end and it’s generally considered bad form to execute people who have no idea what’s going on. Coupled with the fact that his trial lasted all of about 30 minutes with “inadequate” translation services means that regardless of whether or not he was Poland’s Worst Father means that he is eligible to be defended by Polish authorities.

    One thing to keep in mind: If I recall correctly, didn’t our illustrious president want to bring back the death penalty? If so, then likely he wasn’t all too fussed about this guy being executed. Coupled with the fact that Poland imports a great deal of Chinese goods and, increasingly, Chinese labour, it all might seem – from the Government of Poland’s POV – a bit of a lost cause.

    Even so, I would expect them to protest.

  14. guest says:

    “Polish drug traffickers who set him up into smuggling”

    This Carlos guy campe probably from Kyrgyzstan and was not a Pole. “Polish drug traffickers” are probably like “Polish concentration camps”…

    BTW. the whole european Union protested, and Poland is a part of it if i remember right…

  15. adthelad says:

    Spokesman said on news today that this matter has been dragging on for 2 years and that Poland, together with other countries/ EU had also been supporting pleas for clemency.

    China claims to have provided for all human rights in accordance with its own law, but there are claims that mentally ill subjects are not treated the same way. This begs the question why no tests were carried out as to his mental condition. Is someone telling porkies or was the mental health aspect not raised or even considered by the Chinese?
    Either way, I do agree that the media coverage in Poland has been sparce.

  16. Agnieszka says:

    OK, so this guy wasn’t a Polish national… not only that, he was probably guilty of drunk driving and other crimes… and he was involved in drug smuggling… so why exactly should the Polish government take an interest?? I’m not saying it was right to put him to death (though I have no sympathy whatsoever for drug traffickers), but it’s a bit much to say the Polish government or Polish society owed him anything. Would you expect Brits to campaign on behalf of a Polish criminal who’d spent some time here and was facing a harsh sentence back in Poland or elsewhere? Would you expect a statement from Gordon Brown?

    And really, why play the race card? He wasn’t a Pole because he didn’t have Polish citizenship, not because he was brown and a Muslim.

  17. Bartek says:

    There weren’t any pleas for pardon from his ex-wife. She refused to talk to the media about the event and said she could only pray for him. She washed her hands out of the case, wants to push it away from herself and her children.
    If she hadn’t been indifferent about his death and had wanted to avert it, she would have contacted media and she’d’ve been given a chance, cause media seek sensation and her plea would’ve been a bombshell.

    I’ve read through my comments and don’t see anything implying they “were pushing for his execution”.

  18. Bartek says:

    well put over, what the others wanted to convey

  19. Scatts says:

    I wasn’t so much “playing it” as fishing with it.

  20. m says:

    “What kind of illness makes you think you’ll be a pop star in China? ”

    According to british media, bipolar disorder (Stephen Fry is also bo sufferer – http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Stephen-Fry-Backs-Akmal-Shaikh-A-British-Dad-Said-To-Be-Bipolar-Who-Is-Facing-Execution-In-China/Article/200910315406666 )

    Maybe that’s why he started this rant:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/10/stephen-fry-poland-holocaust

  21. […] writes about Poland's lack of response to the execution of Akmal Shaikh in China: “[…] […]

  22. malaysian says:

    china isn’t the only country that executes drug-carrying foreigner/local.

    in most of south-east asia,death penalty is mandatory for drug traffickers.an australian was jailed for life (instead of death penalty) when the indonesian customs found drugs on her.she claimed she didn’t know about it.

    indonesian gov showed clemency purely due the australian dollars they’re getting.

    to think that the chinese would give in to british pressure is unrealistic considering the chinese humiliating history in the opium war(which caused the cessation of hong kong at that time to the british).i have not the slightest doubt that the chinese had hoped that the shaikh they executed was a smith.

    violence should not be the way to solve problems but unfortunately when those who preach about humanity and human rights are morally questionable,we know the kind of grey world we’re living in today.

  23. malaysian says:

    This is an entry in Wikipedia on the Opium War – for our European readers for a better understanding of why I think the Chinese would never tolerate drug-trafficking, more especially by a foreigner.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_war

  24. pinolona says:

    everyone here is very quick to condemn the drug-trafficker as such: where is your proof that he was guilty? I think it’s perfectly plausible that a westerner might be coerced into acting as a drugs mule – it doesn’t necessarily mean this is something they do habitually. And I agree with Brad that as soon the mental health issue is raised it should be fully investigated: something which is not possible in the space of a 30 minute trial.
    Doesn’t it frighten you that this is something that could happen to any one of us on a business trip or on holiday?

  25. Karolina says:

    Assuming he was caught trafficking drugs through a country that has a death penalty for such activity, he should have known the risk factors and that he may lose his life. It’s a tragedy, but everybody is responsible for their actions regardless of circumstances.

  26. Steven says:

    Well said Karolina, You really need to be a complete idiot to try and bring drugs into China. They shoot people for much less there. I don,t buy that EU citizen BS either. They are making a example of what happens to EU citizens or anyone else that smuggles drugs. Well done helping dispose of a little English trash.

  27. pinolona says:

    Steven, how can you be so presumptuous as to refer to another human life as trash? What makes your life for example more valuable than that of Mr Shaikh?
    The point here is that we don’t know that he was aware that he was trafficking drugs – the mental health issue was never properly investigated, and under a regime with a good human rights record it would and should have been.
    Moreover, thirty minutes is not nearly long enough to prove that someone is guilty of a crime serious enough to be punishable by the death penalty. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Or does that concept not exist outside the UK? Seriously – because I’ve never checked – does the Polish justice system assume innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent?

  28. Scatts says:

    Here is a Daily Mail article that suggests execution might have been the right course of action: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1239051/LEO-McKINSTRY-Sorry-join-liberal-wailing-heroin-traffickers-deserve-die.html

    Interestingly, this writer suggests that Akmal has stronger connections to Poland than to Britain:

    Similarly Shaikh, born in Pakistan, spent much of his adult life in the U.S. and Poland before going on his criminal odyssey to China. Neither of these men could demonstrate any real commitment or connection to Britain.

    I’m still struggling with the premise that he’s a drug trafficker. The drugs he had on him were worth around 250,000 GBP so, given his well documented financial trouble, it is impossible that he was doing this on his own. Someone either hired him or persuaded him to take THEIR drugs to China to help with THEIR drug trafficking business. Sure, he’s complicit and should be punished but it strikes me there are others in the background more worthy of the death penalty than him.

  29. Scatts says:

    Even more information:

    Two British men, Paul Newberry and Gareth Saunders, both quoted by the organisation [Reprieve], said they had helped Mr Shaikh record a song in Poland and that it was clear that he was mentally ill.

    Mr Newberry, a British national who lives in Poland, told Reprieve that Mr Shaikh was a ‘very, very ill’ person.

    He said in a statement issued by the organisation: ‘I was probably one of the last people who saw Akmal before he left Poland in August 2007.

    ‘I met Akmal in spring 2007 when he started hanging around the tent city that protesting nurses had set up outside the Polish prime minister’s offices in Warsaw. The protest attracted a range of ‘colourful’ characters and he was one of them.

    ‘As I was British and was with a British friend, Akmal latched on to us. Immediately it was clear that he was mentally ill, although he was a very likeable person, friendly and very open.

    ‘However, he was clearly suffering from delusions and it seemed to me he was a particularly severe case of manic depressive.

    ‘I told him a number of times that he should see a doctor, that he was ill, but he just laughed.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1238454/Akmal-Shaikh-Briton-executed-Chinese-firing-squad-body-returned.html#ixzz0bAm0vtQ7

  30. Ken says:

    This is how he was executed.

    [PLEASE NOTE: THE LINK BELOW LEADS TO GRAPHIC IMAGES OF EXECUTION] (island1 edit)

    h ttp://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/china/2004/12/200412130343.shtml

    For his organs.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5386720.stm

  31. Bartek says:

    In Poland, a defendant is assumed innocent until they are proven guilty. I think it’s a rule applicable in all civilised countries.

  32. malaysian says:

    Well, we can argue all we want about the circumstances of the case – but really, are we not all driven by our own values and perspectives rather than being objective about it ?

    If someone is afraid of any country for any reason – racism, human rights abuse, xenophobia – he should just not travel to that country.

    Once you’re in, they can fuck you up however way they want. Chances are if you’re national of a rich and powerful country, and if the country in question is indebted to you (in the case of Australia and Indonesia), then most likely you would receive better treatment – irregardless of the circumstances of the case.

    In the case of China, most of the world is indebted (trade deficit) to it. Besides that, 2000 years of imperial China demise was accelerated after they lost the Opium War with the British.

    Let’s say Shaikh was indeed innocent, the communist will not lose this opportunity to win the public opinion in China by executing a British man carrying drugs into China.

    In the case that he’s indeed innocent, he should have known better the risks he carried when he decided as a grown-up to do something as stupid as this.

    Whether Shaikh is guilty or not, Gordon Brown would have done the same thing as a matter of winning the British/European public opinion. When it comes to protecting our own kind, I don’t believe our common sense have progressed any further than a caveman.

    Whether China is civilized by Western standards, we’re all aware of it. Come to think about it, not one non-Western country is really civilized by that standard.

    Many points have been raised surrounding the circumstances of the case, so the assumption is that the source of these points – the Western media – was reporting the news in an unbias and neutral way.

    Come to think about it, since when has the Western media been non-critical about China (or Iran, Syria, or Russia for that matter) ?

    The ugly truth is that, while we wish there’s a uniform standard of morality and way of life where we can all live by in this world, it would be overly naive to think of this world in such a simplistic manner.

  33. Steven says:

    What makes you think he did not receive a fair trial? He is in China not Europe or America. He recieved a trial under Chinese law. And then a bullet in the back of the head. They are not subject to any laws but Chinese law. If you don,t want a bullet in the back of the head, don,t get cuaght in China with drugs for example. I like to think my life has a bit more value than a drug smuggler for example. Not to mention a really, really stupid one.

  34. Ewa says:

    Don’t be daft. This could happen to anyone only if they’re in the habit of carrying well wrapped packages for new ‘friends’.

  35. adthelad says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6908467/Akmal-Shaikh-China-refers-to-controversial-Opium-Wars-with-Britain.html

    ammong other information is this ”

    “Since Shaikh was arrested at Urumqi airport with four kilos of heroin in September 2007, China denied repeated requests for him to be examined by a doctor. His family insist he was tricked into carrying the drugs by a criminal gang.

    The Chinese Embassy in London defended its failure to evaluate Shaikh, who was from Kentish Town, north London.

    In a statement, it said the 53-year-old father of five had no “previous medical record” of mental illness and that his “rights and interests were properly respected and guaranteed”.”

    and

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/29/akmal-shaikh-execution-china-drugs

    “The Chinese embassy in London said Shaikh, who used to run a minicab firm in Kentish Town, north London, had no previous medical record of mental illness and that his rights and interests had been properly respected.

    But campaigners said his mental health was never assessed while he was in prison and that the Chinese authorities repeatedly refused access to a forensic psychologist who offered to conduct a free assessment.

    The legal charity Reprieve, which took on Shaikh’s case, said todaythat China ignored evidence from six witnesses who came forward on Monday with tales of his vulnerability. These included a nun and a priest who worked at a centre for asylum seekers in Warsaw, where Shaikh moved five years ago as his mental state declined.

    In a statement today, the Chinese embassy said: “During the legal process, Mr Shaikh’s rights and interests were properly respected and guaranteed and the concerns of the British side were duly noted and taken into consideration by the Chinese judicial authorities.

    “Out of humanitarian consideration, visas were granted to the two cousins of Mr Shaikh on Boxing Day, and they were given access to Mr Shaikh in China.”

    The statement said Shaikh, who was arrested in September 2007 in Urumqi, north-west China, was convicted of “serious” drug trafficking. “The amount of heroin he brought into China was 4,030g, enough to cause 26,800 deaths, threatening numerous families,” it said.

    But Clive Stafford-Smith, director of Reprieve, said if this calculation was correct, about 60% of the world’s population (4.2bn people) would be killed annually from heroin.

    Shaikh learned of his imminent execution only on Monday. He was informed by two cousins who had flown to China seeking a reprieve. “We are deeply saddened, stunned and disappointed at the news of the execution of our beloved cousin,” said Soohail and Nasir Shaikh in a statement.

    The two men said they were “astonished” that the Chinese authorities had refused to investigate their cousin’s mental health on the grounds that the defendant ought to have provided evidence of his own fragile state of mind.”

    Marvellous, eh? :(

  36. malaysian says:

    Commissioner Lin Zexu, governor of Canton to Queen Victoria (in the lead up to Opium War):

    “It is said that the smoking of opium is forbidden in your country, the proof that you are clearly aware of its harm. Since you do not permit opium to harm your own country you should not allow it to be passed on to other countries, certainly not to the Central States [China].

    “Of all the products that the Central States exports … there is not a single item that is not beneficial to the people … Has any article from the Central States done any harm to foreign countries?”

    ==
    The letter received no reply from the gracious Queen.

  37. pinolona says:

    I’m not being daft! Student travellers used to be advised to sew up their backpacks. It could easily happen.

  38. pinolona says:

    Half an hour isn’t long enough for a fair trial, fact. Whether you are in the US, UK or China.
    And human life can’t be valued quantitatively. You simply can’t say that your life has more value than that of a man who you assume to be a drug smuggler: that’s pure arrogance. As is making an unfounded assumption that someone is ‘really, really stupid’.

  39. pinolona says:

    What on earth does the opium war have to do with the unjust execution of a British citizen? Using past events to justify present is false logic.

  40. Poles and Chinese people are realists. They can see through nonsense in the main, apart from their own nonsense.

    Therefore they probably thought the following “We are being told by Gordon Brown’s government that he is a British person and a bi-polar sufferer. Well, we can plainly see that he isn’t *really* a British person, so therefore by that score he probably isn’t *really* a bipolar either. (Especially as no medical evidence was offered, only plain assertion, so China says. The British will say “but doesn’t he obviously look mad to you?” and they could answer. “Yes he does, but then again, you lot all look the same to us.”

    Gordy Brown’s big concern over mental illness didn’t stop him from sending a British person (a real one, this time) from being extraordibarily renditionated to the States not long back, so why the double standards?

    Go to China and break the law, and you can be given a needle that’ll kill you. In the West, turn up for one of these free vaccinations against the swine flu thing they made, and you can be given a needle that within ten years will have killed you. Look up Jane Burgermeister on YT and listen very carefully to what she knows if you want to hear more about that. I don’t want even to listen to leaders of countries who force vaccinate the innocent with squalene, thimerol and birdflu contaminations talking about China lethally injecting their drug pushers. It is absolutely sick.

    Poland has not done much with the vaccine as many high up people are listening to alternative media and are aware, as the czechs are, of the contamination and the WHO programme of culling much of the population in order to delay peak oil. You can say what you like about Catholics, and I’m often taking on catholic theology from a Protestant perspective in my vlogs and blogs, but I’ll give credit where it’s due – many Catholics are against the Bilderbergers and Illuminati eugenics plans, having seen them in action first hand in their country within living memory, and in essence this new non-violent form of eugenics amounts to the same thing.

    Another point missed in the debate so far is that the Akmal put into his song the conversion mantra to Islam, making kids who think tyhey are just singing some intricate “la la” rhythm actually be reciting the shehadet, and officially making Muslims of themselves without realising it. All in all a very dangerous man – when not pushing drugs he’s pushing something just as bad on kids.

    The injection was not the worst thing that could have happened to him – he could have gone on to create utter misery for many more people as well as himself.

    Once again, thanks China, and well done Poland, for not getting involved.

  41. malaysian says:

    Pinolona,

    If Shaikh were an Iraqi, would a similar feeling of anger at the injustice still be inside of you ?

    On top of that, if it came to your knowledge that Shaikh was also resistance fighter against the Americans and British in Iraq, would you still have protested in a similar manner ?

    That having said, all of us feel differently towards many issues because we are looking at those issues from different angles.

    Shaikh was a father and husband, but if he was indeed a drug-carrier, he was also a murderer of thousands of fathers, mothers, daughters, and sons.

    A little bit of liberalism is good for the soul, but too much of it might affect your judgement of right and wrong.

  42. adthelad says:

    Viktor – thanks for the swine flu link – helped me find this http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/video/media-pandemics-and-power

    As to your first point about China and Poland being realists I think you’re exaggerating ‘slightly’. If there is a comparison to be made between them it’s in how China dealt with Tiananmen Square and the way General Jaruzelski dealt with demonstrations in Soviet controlled Poland.

    A happy and prosperous new year everyone, by the way.

  43. Of course, poor Akmal is innocent, and McCanns have not killed Maddie – it’s those racist Spaniards who hate limeys. And racist Chinks, and racist Polaks.
    Liberate the Shaikh to carry heroin, after all he’s brown, so can’t be condemned.
    Whatever happened to equal rights, I ask???

    I think people in the Islands who are bothered are in fact bothered that non-whites had just executed a white country citizen. That’s why there are so many voices defending drug dealers. Of course he didn’t know (that dumb barbarians would catch him).

    And why is Gordon Brown defending him? Elections, that’s for one. Or he’s another secret agent. I like that theory. Let’s make a film!

  44. Oh, BTW – when the UK has given 15 years to a Polish man for alleged rape in a circumstantial process, that was fine, right? So don’t expect Poland to give a monkey’s about a UK man in China.

  45. Steven says:

    Yes …kill them all..let god sort it out later.

  46. malaysian says:

    The Brits made their people drive on the left-hand side and drink tea with milk.

    Maybe I should ask my prime minister to table a motion in the UN criticising them for their barbaric action.

    If they improvise this situation, maybe we can also summon the British UN ambassador to explain his/her country’s stubborn and ignorant behaviour:)

  47. malaysian says:

    *If they fail to improvise…

  48. adthelad says:

    Malayasian – In which universe did this happen then?

    *If they fail to improve…

  49. island1 says:

    Speaking of mental illness…

  50. guest says:

    He is not mentally ill !

    I invited him here BTW. :D

  51. malaysian says:

    Right here in Malaysia, too.

    Haha! But I really do reckon still that we Malaysians share the same humor with the British – full of sarcasm and food for thoughts.

    I have also no doubt that when the crucial times come to make decisions that matter, the British have always made the right ones:-)

  52. Bartek says:

    Thanks for the link. This guy could be a topic for a separate post.

  53. adthelad says:

    Nice one Malaysian :)

  54. justme says:

    “the drugs are Polish, the smugglers are Polish”

    REALLY? “Okole” gave him the suitcase full of heroin in Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, thousands of miles away from Poland. The heroin almost certainly came from Afghanistan, thousands of miles away from Poland.

    Who is “Okole” and what is his nationality? Who is “Carlos” and what is his nationality? We don’t know.

    “The British man stayed in Poland but got in trouble with the police in Lublin, charged with drunken driving and other crimes.”

    What other crimes did he commit?

    “why Poland did not join in the call for clemency?”

    It’s none of our business. He wasn’t Polish citizen, he praised terrorists and wanted to be one, he sent threats via e-mail to people, he wanted to build huge mosque here (why?), he committed crimes in our country… the list goes on and on. We owe him nothing.

  55. Pawel says:

    Well, the moral from this story is not to travel to uncivillised countries, with uncivilised legal procedures.

  56. Pawel says:

    It could be another good opportunity to remind that the UK government has denied to extadite former Polish communist prosecutors and judges (who have sent innocent people to death) to Poland.
    For instance Helena Wolińska-Brus a.k.a. Fajda Mindla Danielak – who later in her life was prodly holding a UK citizenship.

    So this is probably another installment in wonderful-cooperation-of-our-great-countries series.

  57. malaysian says:

    Hey Pinolona,

    I don’t mean to be anti-British (though I always seem like one)

    Bet that the last Malaysian you’ve met was as anti-British as I am. But we’re both the same person (as in literally).

    Sorry that this world has to be this small!

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